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In Spartanburg, S.C., Jobs Are Especially Scarce

Oct 13, 2011
Originally published on October 13, 2011 8:25 pm

The job market is barely treading water. The Labor Department Thursday reported that 404,000 people filed for unemployment benefits last week — pretty much unchanged from the week before. Overall, there are 14 million people looking for work in the U.S.

One of those places where jobs are especially hard to find is Spartanburg, S.C.

On Thursday, the Occupy Wall Street protests spread to the heavily conservative corner of the heavily conservative state. It was a small turnout — about 20 people got some honks of support and some catcalls from people who shouted, "Get a job!"

Don Bramblett, an electrician, who is one of the 20, holds a fat black Sharpie to make a sign.

"Especially in South Carolina — the very few hold on to all of the wealth," he says. "And the working class and the poor are getting less and less of the pie."

South Carolina is tied for the fourth-highest unemployment rate in the country, at 11.1 percent.

The Story Of Spartanburg

At a food pantry at the First Baptist Church Helping Ministries Center in Spartanburg, Sallie-Ruth Coleman prays during the morning devotion.

"Dear Lord Jesus as we come to you today, we come to you with prayer and thanksgiving," she says. "I've got people in here that are hurting, Lord, and they may not even tell me about it, but they can tell you about it."

Three mornings a week, the center opens its doors for people to pick up sacks of food or used clothing. And the numbers of people coming for help are soaring. Many, like Rocky Gist, 51, are unemployed. And he can tell you for exactly how long.

"I've been outta work — the 23rd of this month will make two years," Gist says.

Gist used to be a truck driver for a laundry company and he says he's been trying to find a job — anything. But he's had no luck. And his unemployment benefits ran out two weeks ago. This was his third time coming to the church to get food.

"I never thought it'd be like this," he says. "Never thought it'd wind up like this. I hate that it had to come to this point. I really do. 'Cause I always have provided for myself, you know. I always have."

The story of Spartanburg is the story of many cities throughout the South — cities that were built on the back of the textile industry and then watched that lifeblood disappear. Thousands of textile jobs were lost here as the industry moved overseas, the hulking factories now shuttered and crumbling.

"The city is ringed with these places — shut down [mills] behind barbed wire," says Betsy Teter, who runs a nonprofit arts group in Spartanburg. "It's just part of the landscape here."

On a tour of the old mills, Teter points out a bright spot — a mill that's been turned into apartments. Another mill was torn down and a brand new medical school has gone up in its place.

Teter thinks back on her many years covering business for the Spartanburg Herald-Journal — at the height, or the depth, of the mill closures.

"In the end, it was very repetitive — we went and saw people that looked like the same people at the last mill we covered and they had the same things to say," she says. "And it was heartbreaking. It was heartbreaking."

Seniors Go Back For Their GEDs

At the Adult Learning Center in Spartanburg, three seniors tell their stories. They all dropped out of school as teenagers and spent a lifetime working in the mills.

Daisy Knuckles, 64, was laid off on March 3, 2009. "They took our work and moved it to China," she says.

Rosa Sherbert, 68, worked in textiles for about 30 years.

And Gene Ratliff, 73, was laid off on March 15, 2009.

"It was hard to see the plant shut down and come to a standstill," he says.

Now, they're bent over math books, studying fractions and geometry in preparation for the GED exam. They're hoping for a new start, late in life. And Ratliff says they know their odds of finding a job are even slimmer if they don't have a GED.

"I told my wife I was going to Walmart to be a greeter," he says. "I've worked all of my life and sitting is not a job that I look forward to. This had been a challenge to me, coming to school, cause I've always been active, always working. And sitting here working this book is a challenge."

A Bright Spot

Ten years ago, Spartanburg County had 36,000 manufacturing jobs. Now that's dwindled to 24,000. Many of them are in the automotive industry.

Cooper Standard in Spartanburg makes sealing components for cars: the strips that keep out rain and noise. Human resources manager Warren Snead explains that state tax breaks helped the company expand this year after a dire stretch in 2009, when the auto industry was in the dumps. Two years ago, Cooper Standard filed for bankruptcy. Employees took a pay cut. There were layoffs.

"What didn't kill us made us stronger," Snead says. "We're cautiously looking to the future — do we have confidence that the economy is strong? I can tell you, we could hire more people today if we had confidence that the economy was going to remain robust."

And Snead says these jobs require different skills than the textile jobs of the past, and a high school diploma, at least.

"It is now really a prerequisite," he says. "It's just not possible to go into this environment and not be able to read a gauge, or to read a screen, or to type commands into a computer."

In Spartanburg, Cooper Standard has expanded its workforce this year — and one of its new employees is 23-year-old Quinton Varnadore, a machine operator. He's glad to have a job that pays $13.62 an hour.

"I just bought my first house, just moved in last month," he says. "I love it. I love being on my own. I got a foreclosed house for half the price and I'm actually paying less to live in my own home than to live in an apartment right now."

At first there was trouble trying to get his mortgage from Bank of America, but, Quinton says, "As soon as Warren Buffett bailed 'em out, boom! I got a house!"

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And I'm Robert Siegel. The job market is barely treading water. Today, the Labor Department reported 404,000 people filed for unemployment benefits last week, pretty much unchanged from the week before. Overall, there are 14 million people looking for work. And one of the places where jobs are especially hard to find is Spartanburg, S.C. That's where our co-host, Melissa Block, has been this week. She's talking to people about the economy and today, that included people at a demonstration inspired by the Occupy Wall Street protests.

(SOUNDBITE OF CAR HORN)

MELISSA BLOCK, BYLINE: It was a small turnout in this heavily conservative corner of this heavily conservative state, about 20 people getting some honks of support and some catcalls, people shouting, get a job. I find Don Bramblett, an electrician, with a fat black Sharpie making a sign to carry.

DON BRAMBLETT: I don't have enough room. About time for bailout of workers.

BLOCK: South Carolina is tied for the fourth highest unemployment rate in the country at 11.1 percent.

BRAMBLETT: Especially in South Carolina, the very few hold on to all the wealth and the working class and the poor just are getting less and less of the pie.

SALLIE-RUTH COLEMAN: Dear lord Jesus, as we come to you today, we come to you with prayer and thanksgiving. If we open up our eyes...

BLOCK: Morning devotion at a food pantry in Spartanburg at the First Baptist Church Helping Ministries Center.

COLEMAN: Lord, I've got people in here that are hurting, Lord, and they may not even tell me about it, but they can tell you about it because...

BLOCK: Three mornings a week, the center opens its doors for people to pick up sacks of food or used clothing.

(SOUNDBITE OF DOOR OPENING)

BLOCK: And the numbers of people coming for help are soaring. Many, like 51-year-old Rocky Gist, are unemployed. And he can tell you for exactly how long.

ROCKY GIST: I've been outta work here since - the 23rd of this month will make two years.

BLOCK: Gist used to be a truck driver for a laundry company and he says he's been trying to find a job, anything, but no luck. And his unemployment benefits ran out two weeks ago. This was his third time coming to the church to get food.

GIST: I never thought it would be like this. Never thought it'd wind up like this.

BLOCK: How does it feel to come here?

GIST: I hate that it had to come to this point, you know, I really do. 'Cause I always have provided for myself, you know. I always have.

BLOCK: The story of Spartanburg is the story of many cities throughout the South, cities that were built on the back of the textile industry and then watched that lifeblood disappear. Thousands of textile jobs were lost here as the industry moved overseas, the hulking factories now shuttered and crumbling.

BETSY TETER: The city is ringed with these places, right now.

BLOCK: Shut down mills.

TETER: Shut down behind the barbed wire. It's just part of the landscape here.

BLOCK: Betsy Teter runs a nonprofit arts group in Spartanburg and she's giving me a driving tour of the old mills. She points out one bright spot, a mill that's been turned into apartments. Another mill was torn down and a brand new medical school has gone up in its place.

(SOUNDBITE OF TRAIN)

BLOCK: Betsy Teter thinks back on her many years covering business for the Spartanburg Herald-Journal at the height, or the depth, of the mill closures.

TETER: Well, in the end, it was very repetitive. We went and saw people that looked like the same people at the last mill we covered and they had the same things to say. And it was heartbreaking. It was heartbreaking.

DAISY KNUCKLES: I was laid off on March the 3rd, 2009. They took our work and moved it to China. I'm 64 now, but I was 61 when I got laid off.

ROSA SHERBERT: I'm 68 years old and I worked in textiles for about 30 years.

GENE RATLIFF: I was laid off on March 15th, 2009. I'm 73 and that's - it was hard to see the plant shut down and come to a standstill. I'd been...

BLOCK: I meet Daisy Knuckles, Rosa Sherbert and Gene Ratliff at the Adult Learning Center in Spartanburg. All three dropped out of school as teenagers, spent a lifetime working in the mills and now, they're bent over math books, studying fractions and geometry, preparing to take their GED exam. They're hoping for a new start late in life. And Gene Ratliff says they know their odds of finding a job are even slimmer if they don't have a GED.

RATLIFF: I told my wife I was going to Wal-Mart to be a greeter. Well, you know, I've worked all of my life and sitting is not a job that I look forward to. This has been a challenge for me, coming to school here, because I've always been active, always working. And sitting here working in this book has been a challenge.

(SOUNDBITE OF TRUCK BEEPING)

BLOCK: Ten years ago, Spartanburg County had 36,000 manufacturing jobs. Now, that's dwindled to 24,000, many of them now in the automotive industry.

WARREN SNEAD: Okay. This is an outer belt that's being made...

BLOCK: Cooper Standard in Spartanburg makes sealing components for cars, the strips that keep out rain and noise.

SNEAD: You're looking at a brand new building.

BLOCK: Human resources manager Warren Snead explains that state tax breaks helped them expand this year after a dire stretch in 2009, when the auto industry was in the dumps. Two years ago, Cooper Standard filed for bankruptcy. Employees took a pay cut. There were layoffs.

SNEAD: What didn't kill us made us stronger. You know, we were cautiously looking to the future. Do we have confidence that the economy is strong? I can tell you, we could hire more people today if we had confidence that the economy was going to remain robust.

BLOCK: And Snead says these jobs require different skills than the textile jobs of the past, and a high school degree, at least.

SNEAD: It is now really a pre-requisite. It's just not possible to go into this environment and not be able to read a gauge, or to read a screen, or to type commands into a computer.

BLOCK: In Spartanburg, Cooper Standard has expanded its workforce this year, and one of its new employees is 23-year-old Quinton Varnadore, a machine operator glad to have a job that pays 13.62 an hour.

QUINTON VARNADORE: I just bought my first house, just moved in last month. I love it. I love being on my own. I got a foreclosed house for half the price and I'm actually paying less to live in my own home than live in an apartment right now.

BLOCK: At first there was trouble trying to get his mortgage from Bank of America, but, Quinton says, as soon as Warren Buffett bailed them out, boom, I got a house. I'm Melissa Block in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

SIEGEL: And tomorrow on our program, Melissa will talk with people in Spartanburg about politics. South Carolina's primary is early, January 21st, and no surprise, the economy is front and center on voter's minds. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.